MoP Beta Files: Fly-thru for Kun-Lai Summit

Shamanana has created a new video for us of the latest zone to be unlocked in Pandaria: Kun-Lai Summit. I haven't been there yet and I'm not quite sure how he got in either. It's bordered on all side by zones that are still closed. Either way, here is a video of the new zone for your enjoyment!

23 comments:

  1. Can you tell if the new zones are "cross-realm?" With the recently announced technology, old zones could have players from dozens of zones in them, so leisurely mining/herb may turn into rush hour in Scholo Basin.

    I assumed that 85-90 zones would not be cross-realm, but am not sure.

    Thanks

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  2. OK, I'm at work and I'm not 100% sure, but if you go to the flight point just northwest of Thunderfoot Fields in Valley of the Four Winds, there's a stairway going up into the hills. You go partway up that and there's a couple of quests to do. Once complete, you go further down and get on a boat to get to Kun-Lai.

    Again, I think that's correct. I'll look when I go home for lunch to make sure I'm starting you at the right place.

    Shamanana

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  3. Shamanana, that is correct. I was curious how to get there as well (knowing the areas around it were all locked still) but went up the stairs to try and it all worked out. I think you have to be careful to take the hill path to the left of the bandit camp though, I'd imagine going to the right would lead you to a locked zone.

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  4. Hagu: Given the announcement, I'm assuming that the cross-realm tech will be rolled into Pandaria at some point in Beta (if it isn't there now). And yes, I was quite concerned about how this will affect ore/herbs once that's in place. Especially in the early weeks of an expansion, the ability to find resources is already tricky just because of the massive population going through each zone. Perhaps cross-realm balancing will help or it may possibly make things worse. I know phasing caused issues with ore in Hyjal/TH which still persist today.

    I'm expecting the worst but hopefully it won't come to that. Currently they haven't even implemented nodes yet so we're still in the dark about the state of gathering in Pandaria.

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  5. Thank you Flock. I came home and my level 88 Shaman is bugged. When I log in, I can see the inn I logged out in for about a second, then I'm disconnected. I guess I'll transfer again and start back at 85.... :-(

    Oh well, that's why it's a beta.

    Shamanana

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  6. You can get to Kun-Lai Summit by taking the "hundred stairs" up from Valley of the Four Winds and following the right hand path when they split. You eventually get to a tunnel where you take a boat under mountains to get up to Kun-Lai Summit. (I was wandering around trying to find new places to fish hoping to get the shrimp needed for the "of the steamer - spirit" cooking).

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  7. I think there are some prerequisites for Kun-Lai. Kaliope is 87 and she can't use the boat. I did most of VotFW and some of Krasarang, but didn't fully complete either. I was able to do two quests at the Stair area and now I seem to be stuck. Either I need to finish the quests in the other zones or I need to be higher level, I'm not sure which.

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    1. I went through at 87 without the boat. There are some mobs in the tunnel but they're not too tough and most can be avoided (depending on your class)

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    2. I should say they weren't too tough for an ilvl 401 hunter (hadn't replaced any gear yet other than my neck)

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    3. Kaliope's offset is 391 with gear from VotFW questing (she was 370 going into MoP). I can probably stealth through the tunnel, but I wasn't sure if that would actually get me anywhere. On the Pandaria map there's another zone between VotFW and Kun-Lai, perhaps the tunnel takes you through that section. I'll give it a try later today, thanks for the tip :)

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  8. I was 88 when I went up there, so perhaps that's the requirement. I also did almost all of Krasarang and I think all of VotFW, so it could be the VotFW quests are a pre-req. More likely that it's a level requirement. Would make a lot of sense. As a zone, I like it so far.

    As a side note, how do you feel about the lack of flying mounts in Pandaria? I finally read your review of SWtoR today and wonder if WoW going back to a more classic, ground limited traveling style (a la the style you disliked about SWtoR) changes your opinion, since it removes one of your main complaints (or at least, returns the same complaint to WoW). And SWtoR's improved hearth system would certainly be useful at improving travel times. I've found the MoP beta to be more of a return to how things were, with lots of running back and forth and travel time, and a slightly lower ability to avoid aggroing mobs than in SWtoR. But part of that could be that Jade Forest just didn't seem well designed to me, you worked up through the zone but then had to go back south randomly for more quests, and then it appeared you were done but there were hidden quests farther up north. I'm blaming that on beta being beta though, and figure they'll make it more rational.

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  9. The lack of flying in Pandaria doesn't irritate me too much since we've been grounded in every expansion with WoW. I didn't mind it initially in SWTOR either at first, but the 50 hours it took my toon to unlock a mount started to wear on me after the first 10 hrs of traveling on foot. That plus the fact that SWTOR has most mobs placed in groups of 2+, which makes it harder to outrun aggro when walking between quest areas. And with SWTOR you're on foot, which means you can't really outrun anything. Traveling by ground mount in WoW is still faster, which makes it easier to shake off anything that attacks.

    I agree that Jade Forest seems a bit zig-zaggy, but VotFW is better in that respect. Eventually they'll add the bread-crumb quests that send you to the next location, I think those just aren't in yet.

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  10. Not to quibble but in my experience we weren't grounded in any expansion. We weren't grounded in Cata at all, and I was late to the Northrend party but if I remember correctly I bought Cold Weather Flying before leaving that first quest hub. I didn't start until late BC but I do know I got Flying after the first few quests at Honor Hold.

    I find the lack of flying in Pandaria quite a step backwards, but believe that's only because they implemented old world flying. If they'd left it the way it always was, then I wouldn't be used to it and therefore wouldn't miss it now that it's (albeit temporarily) gone. But, they did implement it - so now, taking a step backwards is a little annoying, and basically is one of the points you made in your review, which was that travel in SWtoR felt like a step back form the advances WoW made since Vanilla and doing it that way was a mistake. You said Bioware should have started from where WoW was now, since WoW has set the standard. Well, now WoW travel is going back to Vanilla style, in a way.

    It's not so annoying that I will complain on a forum or anything, but enough that I was curious about if it caused you to re-evaluate your opinion SWtoR. So question posed, and answered, thanks!

    For my story, although I did stop playing SWtoR, it had nothing to do with the travel or quest experience. I got to level 29 on a smuggler and 33 on a jedi consular, and found the travel experience better than in WoW. It also sounds like I had a completely different experience in SWtoR than you did though. I never ran into one of those dead zones you talked about, and found it very easy to avoid aggroing mobs at all since you have to get extremely close to them to aggro. And I could be remembering this incorrectly but the ground mount speed in WoW seems like it's the same speed, or slower, than a SWtoR character sprinting. It also didn't take me close to 50 hours to get the mount. The ability to hearth to any hub you want is awesome, and WoW could totally learn from that.

    So, question posed and answered, thanks! Sorry SWtoR's travel was so unpleasant for you!

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  11. Granted, we weren't grounded in Cata, but originally in BC, you couldn't fly until 70 and in Wrath, you couldn't fly in Northrend until 77. After 3.2, a level 80 could buy Cold Weather Flying as a BoA item and mail it to alts. Now, Cold Weather Flying is available at 68.

    Correct me if I'm wrong.

    James

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  12. That's pretty much the way I remember it too and the patch notes on Wowpedia support that timelime. In most cases Blizzard will lower the requirement for flying towards the end of an expansion, but when an expansion is released we are typically grounded until we complete most of the new content.

    It sounds like Flock managed to miss out on that situation since he mentions being late to both Northrend and Burning Crusade. So his recollection of travel is clearly much different than ours.

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  13. Ah the good old days....LOL

    I remember not getting my ground mount until 40 and not getting my Epic ground mount until 60!!!! Did the quests to get my Paladin and Lock mounts both.....Good times.... :-) Walking until level 40 sucked bad!!!

    I did skip the quests to get the Druid flying form though.... :-(

    James

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  14. I remember doing the pally and lock quests for mounts (at least the first ones, I didn't like them enough to level much after that until Cata), and I didn't have a ground mount until what seemed to me like forever. I know around the time I started on the account I have now it was possible to learn to ride at 30 (and the next at 60), but believe I didn't have enough gold until 40 or so. I also think that before I left Honor Hold in BC I could fly in flight form (but I sort of recall riding my winterspring frostsaber into the Cenarion Camp in the next zone, so could just be remembering the first time I shifted into flight form, which I'm sure was in Honor Hold), and I was extremely grateful for how cheap it was compared to having to purchase the flying. Very sad when they removed that loophole, but getting the gold to purchase flying is so much easier now that I guess it doesn't matter.
    Now that you remind me, I guess I couldn't learn to fly until 77 on my main in Wrath, but that was so long ago I didn't remember getting annoyed (and then happy) about the tomes of cold weather flying. I do know I was grounded for a long while due to gold, but think of that as a separate issue.
    Sorry to misremember Wrath, and for definitely being more spoiled when it comes to flying than you two were (albeit not as spoiled as people who've started since).

    On a separate note, I can't wait for them to implement professions in a way I feel comfortable testing. I leveled my first aid to max already on one druid, but didn't think to keep track of how much cloth it was taking until I was close to done - oops. Now I'm just saving all the cloth I get to do First Aid again on another toon later, since my tailor is still 77 and I doubt I'll level her to the point where I could learn MoP Professions prior to the beta ending. I have at least one toon on each US server, if you end up needing cloth Kali. This week when I've been on I've just been running around skinning everyone's kills in the first area on my hunter, because I promised I wouldn't level him until one of my friends decided he wanted to play. I'm enjoying the skinner's heaven, but kind of feel like a stalker/thief benefiting so much from other people's skills. Is there an etiquette for how long you should wait/how far away they should be after they kill the mob before skinning it?

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  15. Flock: No worries about the fuzzy timeline, I was having to rely on Wowpedia to refresh my memories too.

    I am saving cloth for Tailoring first since I have a max Tailor to test with, so that will be my first priority. If I have enough cloth after I'll try to test First Aid. Any donations that you (or other Beta folks) want to make can be mailed to Kaliope (Alliance side) on Lost Isles. I can also arrange to swap through the Neutral AH for Hordies who want to help :)

    As for Skinning etiquette, I don't know that there's a solid rule on the matter. I've had folks walk right up behind me after I kill something on a few occasions. My general rule of thumb is to wait until the person has moved on to a new section before I swoop in. As long as they are not actively killing in the spot, I think it's ok to walk over and gather the skins. I would say if they are 20-40 yards from you (aka outside of your spell range) it's probably safe to go for it.

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  16. I'm not sure if you are going to need it, but if you don't have enough character copies to take care of all professions, I have all but tailoring and engineering that I could test. Currently I have skin/lw on Lost Isles, and alch/herb and alch/mine on Gilneas. I'd like to copy my mage, but she has ench/jc which is sort of a waste given I can do that on a premade.

    I also just noticed a Ghost Iron Deposit on the beta. I'm not sure if anyone had seen those before, or if that was a non-mentioned piece of the latest build.

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    1. There's a Rain Poppy too. I'm not on a toon with either mine or herb atm, to run around and see if they're just in one area or all zones, but I do know that on my herbalist no nodes were showing up last build.

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  17. I'm working on a Mining post now, just trying to function with the app crashing on me every few minutes. I've also started taking notes on the herbs, so that will be my next task. Oddly, I haven't found any nodes in VotFW just yet, but I only got to Halfhill before I crashed out again.

    Currently I have LW/Skin, BS/Herb, Premade Panda with JC/Mining and slots to copy Engie/Enchant, Scribe/Alchemist, Tailor/Alchemist. I think I'll have all the primary trades covered with the addition of the premade JC who I just powered up Mining on. I'll be sure to post if my situation changes :)

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  18. I did a run through on my herbalist and so far I haven't seen any herbs north of the halfway point in the Jade Forest.
    Is there a way to track your nodes in beta? Like with Gatherer on live? I figured not, but thought I'd ask. Perhaps printing out a map and marking?

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  19. To my knowledge 3rd party add-ons have not been enabled in the Beta yet. The only way to track nodes is through the default mini-map. You could try poking around on Wowhead but I kinda doubt they would have any spawn information in just 24 hours.

    I have found that Rain Poppy spawns near the river's edge and green tea leaf is often near stands of bamboo. Ghost iron ore is kind of all over, haven't noted a pattern just yet.

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